18" engel/rondell alloys fitment.

[car11]

Hi fellas.

If anyone out there has got these alloys on their car I'm after a bit of advice. I want to get some fitted but also want the car to sit right. It's currently a standard escos but if I put bigger alloys what suspension setup do I need. Oilcosworth has some on his and it sits perfectly - is he running coilovers does anyone know?

Do I need coilovers? Also I have read if I get coilovers I'd need a rear strut brace??? Is this necessary?
The car doesn't get used hard at all, it's not on track or anything so I don't want to spend megabucks on suspension, it's purely cosmetic reasons. Would they catch etc??

Any advice will help my decision a lot easier.

Thanks

[matt cooke]

koni shocks and bayjoo springs is best if your not going to track it, you may need spacers up front if your on standard brakes, i did until i fitted compbrake monster kit up front.

[car11]

Thanks matt.
What sort of cost would Koni shocks and bajoo springs be?
Are they cheaper than coilovers?

[Mike Rainbird]

Thanks matt.
What sort of cost would Koni shocks and bajoo springs be?
Are they cheaper than coilovers?

http://www.randbmotorsport.co.uk/shop/Parts.asp?ID=5

Note that the spring cups may foul on the tyres (depending on what you go for). This is why people say about coil-overs. However, you can mod the cups to clear, or tweak them with a rubber hammer. Normally only needs quarter of an inch.

See photos below:
Rubber hammer mod:


Cut and reweld mod:

[cootsie]

GGR Spring, same mod to Koni struts but didn't weld the piece back on.

And this is how it sits....

[matt cooke]

not sure about that mate if your tyre was to touch that edge it would be a bit nasty, you must also have a freindly mot tester!

[cootsie]

not sure about that mate if your tyre was to touch that edge it would be a bit nasty, you must also have a freindly mot tester!

Why would that be Matt?

[Simon T]

That shock is supposed to be an MOT fail if left like that as the spring cup is incomplete.

[maxest]

Not keen at all on that spring cup, mine just need a light tweek with a rubber mallet like mike has mentioned above, didnt break the paint either

Also if you original shocks are in good condition just get some lowering springs

[car11]

Thanks for the info guys.

At least I know what's involved now and what sort of setup to look at.

Cheers!

[cootsie]

not sure about that mate if your tyre was to touch that edge it would be a bit nasty, you must also have a freindly mot tester!

That shock is supposed to be an MOT fail if left like that as the spring cup is incomplete.

I don't have a 'freindly MOT tester..... However according to the guidelines for MOT testers..... There is no part that says the cup is incomplete. (Maybe broken or excessively damaged. but in my mind it is neither)

We will see come MOT time i suppose.


Applies to the front and rear suspension

• no split pins or nuts missing, no components broken or excessively damaged
• road springs are checked for condition
• all suspension joints are checked for condition
• shock absorbers must not leak and must be secure (the vehicle will be 'bounced' by the Tester to check that they damp the springs adequately).

The suspension is checked for wear by the assistant applying loads in various ways with the wheels jacked up whilst the Tester observes the result from beneath the vehicle. This may include the use of approved wheel play detectors in some Test Stations.

Note: There are numerous different suspension systems, and the specific nature of any examination will depend to a large extent on the design of the suspension system.

[Simon T]

Ahh, I see what you mean, depends if they view that as broken or excessively damaged or not.

[thedman]

Graham, I certainly wouldn't even consider driving a car with a spring cup like that.

Would be surprised also if it passed an MOT like that.

[The Radman]

i think ive mentioned this before but surely all the strength has now been removed? theres nothing to stop it opening up and bending downwards??

[Davecos 4x4]

surely a small spacer would be better to use than cut the platform.