How much to build?

[FletchCossie]

How much would it cost to build a 3dr Cosworth using a standard Sierra shell, with a stripped interior and bare essentials to get going. After seeing CossieDrifts for sale I have contacted him to discuss a few things, but I doubt he would accept what I think the car is worth as an offer.

So what would it cost to build one from scratch? I would be using it for track/drifting so having a mint shell is not important, but would need to be tidy.

What would need to be done to the shell? Where can you get non genuine Cossie bumpers, spoilers, etc?

Thanks for any help

[Joe-Tait]

x sport racing do all the cosworth rs500 etc bumpers and spoilers

Not really sure of a figure but you could build one on a very limited budget pretty easily over time

Its just a case of searching/waiting to find parts at rock bottom bargain prices

[FletchCossie]

Thanks mate, thats a good site

I want something that I can get into and rag around without much worry, but with the costs involved with my Esc Cos (£6k engine, £2k gearbox, etc) if it breaks I would rather bring it out summer only. A 3dr fuck about can be used anytime and if it breaks I can rebuild, but not to a high spec or anything like my Esc Cos.

[Loader]

Just buy danny / cossiedrifts car , will work out cheaper and less hassle in theend.

[RS 500 Registrar]

There is no way you could build one with decent engine / box etc for the price he is asking

Paul

[FletchCossie]

What do you think CossieDrifts car is worth, bearing in mind its a 1.6 shell? Ive seen genuine 3dr's are selling between 7-10k with full interior, clean bodywork, etc and without slagging CossieDrift's car off (As I would like to buy it), but to me its a £3-£4k car if that, as its stripped, 1.6 shell and described as "Has been welded just like most of them these days looks presentable but not mint!"

I have sent a message and awaiting a reply to discuss buying the shell complete without engine and front brakes (As I value these around £2.5-£3k alone if the car was broken), so hoping the rolling shell with bumpers, spoiler, diff, gearbox, etc will be £1000-£2000 depending on exact condition and exactly what I get with it.

[FletchCossie]

There is no way you could build one with decent engine / box etc for the price he is asking

Paul

Hence Im asking how much it would cost to build one

[Loader]

A 3-4k car , are you on crack ?
It would brake for more .

[FletchCossie]

Yes, crack is my hobby at present

I know it will break for more, most cars will. My Escort will break for £13k, does that mean the car is worth £15k?? Did Dave Moss sell YUM for £40k or break it for £40k? Did Kelv break his for £20-£30k or sell it for that????? This is why I have asked for the 2 most expensive parts to be removed

I asked how much you valued it at bearing in mind it is a 1.6 shell and all you did was ask if I was on crack

I have said how much I value the car at based on a previous 1.6 shell not able to sell rolling for £1000 iirc and that was mint. I have asked for other people to vaule the car and not one person has actually answered the question This site is turning into PassionFord

[Loader]

You are on crack , or to much coffee this morning maybe .
I'm not trying to be a prick , I just think your being unrealistic.
IMO -
3k engine,turbo,injectors,loom, ancillaries ( stg3 maybe stuff maybe)
500 box , diff, prop
1k rad,intercooler, clutch, other engine bay crap
1k wheels, brakes , suspension
1k beam, cross member , rack , hubs , tca's ect.

Then whatever you want to spend on your shell and interior.

Also worth bearing in Mind some of the second Hand stuff you buy will be fucked no matter how much you pay out. Cossie parts you will always have to buy three of sometimes before you get a good part.

[FletchCossie]

You are on crack , or to much coffee this morning maybe .
I'm not trying to be a prick , I just think your being unrealistic.
IMO -
3k engine,turbo,injectors,loom, ancillaries ( stg3 maybe stuff maybe)
500 box , diff, prop
1k rad,intercooler, clutch, other engine bay crap
1k wheels, brakes , suspension
1k beam, cross member , rack , hubs , tca's ect.

Then whatever you want to spend on your shell and interior.

Also worth bearing in Mind some of the second Hand stuff you buy will be fucked no matter how much you pay out. Cossie parts you will always have to buy three of sometimes before you get a good part.

I appreciate the help mate

Xs sport rad (new) - £150
Intercooler - £200 2nd hand
Clutch - standard ford for 330bhp - £150

Wheels, brakes, etc £1000 depending on which ones you go for.

Rear beam - £100 , hubs -£70, tca's - £150 adjustable

It would be a cheap 1.6 shell, so under £500

Built on a budget I reckon it could be done for £6-7k with all work done by myself. Does this sound reasonable? Im not talking rebuilt engine, boxes 1000mm massive brakes, etc just bare essentials and a bit of patience on the right parts.

[Loader]

Exactly my point then , Danny 's would be a better spec and you don't have get your hands dirty. All for similar or less money.

[FletchCossie]

But I can buy a standard 3dr, sell interior parts and anything else not needed for the same price as building it or buying Danny's

Will see what Danny comes back with on my message

[Ben M]

your mad to think you can build a car the same as that for the money he asking

wheels + brakes are 1k
eng box loom etc 3k
cage seats 500
rear beam front beam suspension and rear brakes around 1k
all gauges inside 300


plus shell rad intercooler etc

i think if you have offered him less then 5k he will politely tell you to do one

[FletchCossie]

your mad to think you can build a car the same as that for the money he asking

wheels + brakes are 1k
eng box loom etc 3k
cage seats 500
rear beam front beam suspension and rear brakes around 1k
all gauges inside 300


plus shell rad intercooler etc

i think if you have offered him less then 5k he will politely tell you to do one

That's just it, it's not a big spec car apart from brakes and engine, hence I've asked for price without. I've not made an offer, would prefer Danny to come back to me with his prices as he knows what he wants and I don't want to offend him.

The only thing to let the car down IMO is the 1.6 shell, if it was genuine cosworth I could justify the asking price on near it. What's putting me off is it's basically a 1.6 shell with Cossie parts. Find a cheap Cossie, £3000-£4000 and buy a 1.6 Sierra. Change all the parts you need over, sell what you don't need and it's exactly the same as this car and just under the £5k mark, maybe not big brakes or rebuilt engine tho.

Can people just bare in mind most my posts are me thinking out loud and im looking for options to see if Its worth the effort or not as I want something to play with and make my own. Danny's car has given me an idea and if I cannot come to a deal which will suit both parties I would like to know costs on doing it myself over the next year or so and see if it's worth the effort or not.