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    Got banned off the RSOC for proving that the Focus RS isn't anything really special, hosting most parts off a normal Focus, but with subtle differences. Its a great car, but it isn't built like a Mercedes is it, its still a Ford with bits from the parts bin and some redeveloped parts from standard i.e. radiator exactly the same as an ST170/1.8 Diesel (but mention RS and its instantly more expensive), chargecooler box bushes cost an arm and a leg (but are the same as bushes off a Mondeo at £1.50 each) etc. But the powers that be seemed fit to ban me for showing that people don't need to pay RS tax from Ford when purchasing new parts. More freedom to be had in a communist country

    The topic was the front track control arm, which on the RS is apparently reinforced with an extra internal plate located around the gusset hole and has 2 different bushes. It also costs £350 from Ford, where the standard arm costs £100 all in. But when I cut open the genuine example that has the correct RS part number, I found no extra strengthening plate, the rear bush is larger, but the front bush simply has a 2mm larger insert for the 14mm bolt (standard Focus uses a 12mm bolt). But the bush is exactly the same and we all know Ford bushes even outlast polybushes. To all intent purposes, they are EXACTLY the same.

    I guess some people are gullible enough to believe what a manufacturer tells them, like "the RS does NOT torquesteer" than having proof laid out in front of them

    Here's the arm (sorry about the shoddy grinding, was in a rush to find out the truth). The part number on a genuine RS part starts with 1M50, where normal Focus parts start with 2M51. I fitted a standard arm to the Mrs RS (as it needed a new ball joint, and a full arm is just easier to sort out) and used a lathe to cut out 2mm from the large insert of the front bush to allow fitment of the original 14mm bolt. The rear bush I left as it is and it all fits with ease.

    Best part is, after checking the geometry in the local garage after a hard driving day over the Peak District, both sides still sit exactly the same as each other. No problems at all.







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    Focus RS Toyhttp://passionford.com/forum/restora...on-the-go.html
    Bought and made BETTER

  • #2
    No great loss , they hate to be proved wrong about anything
    Last edited by xpackboy; 12-10-2014, 15:48:11.

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    • #3
      my memberships run out for the rsoc,first time in 25yrs do i or dont i?

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      • #4
        Why somebody trying to help fellow owners save a quid or two is offensive is beyond me. Unless of course you called them all stuck up cnuts!
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        • #5
          6 month ban

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dave H View Post
            Why somebody trying to help fellow owners save a quid or two is offensive is beyond me. Unless of course you called them all stuck up cnuts!
            I agree with you fellawhat the hell is wrong with trying to help owners out and save a few quid if possible
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            • #7
              Well in all fairness, I did have the typical paranoid purist questioning everything in the most disrespectful manner possible and I couldn't keep it in anymore That, plus the FRS section moderators hang out of the ass of the main moderator who's a total bell end, never giving a fair hearing...much like Passionford. Believes everything Ford have said about the FRS and will not accept anything else. So they simply edited the paranoid guy's posts to make it look like I was attacking him and they banned me.

              But it didn't help that I started baiting by taking the piss out of the main moderator a little, posting Lamborghini's official statement regarding the Murcielago which he would no doubt believe and cream over as well

              'the exhaust makes a sound that ranges from a heavy rumble of a stormy night, through the trumpeting of mighty elephants, to the roar of a raging lion'
              But the point is, I've researched and found so many ways of replacing typical parts that wear out without having to break the bank with RS parts. They are genuine Ford parts though, but they say that doing that would be using "poverty spec" parts. Bell ends!
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              Focus Cosworth Projecthttp://www.escortrscosworth.com/foru...ad.php?t=20575
              Focus RS Toyhttp://passionford.com/forum/restora...on-the-go.html
              Bought and made BETTER

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              • #8
                Hence why I have never joined the RSOC, full of self important tossers

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                • #9
                  I never got involved with any of this over on the RSOC

                  but you havent exactly told the truth here have you

                  You trying to " help " RSOC members is not why you got banned at all

                  Im not going to start it all up on here as its

                  1, not worth it
                  2, Not fair
                  3, most wont give a shit

                  All i will say is that you have a ban from PF now the RSOC , so i quess everyone is wrong and your right eh ??

                  There is always two sides to every srory

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                  • #10
                    Just drop it Al
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                    • #11
                      Not really Paul, I've admitted to being wound up by certain folk who wouldn't accept the proof as it was so neatly laid out for them. So it all spiraled out of context there, but of course Mods saw fit to edit other person's posts and left mine to look like I was the only one out of order. That is the bare reality of it, done up like a right kipper!

                      As for Passionford, that was simple. It was all to do with me saying that Tony @ Turbosystems Supra diff kit was crap and had weak points, he didn't like it, his mates are Moderators who don't like the truth (in however way I post it) and I got banned after a slagging match. It's that black and white. Not saying I wasn't out of order, but I'm not the only one that should be crucified just because I'm the one that's been banned! Shit sticks together I'm afraid.

                      @ Dave

                      Sorry, but unfair I didn't get a fair hearing in any case.
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                      Focus Cosworth Projecthttp://www.escortrscosworth.com/foru...ad.php?t=20575
                      Focus RS Toyhttp://passionford.com/forum/restora...on-the-go.html
                      Bought and made BETTER

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                      • #12
                        Most of us don't care what goes on with other forums, and would rather keep this place for escos talk which is why most of us are here!.

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                        • #13
                          Fair enough, just needed to vent
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                          Focus Cosworth Projecthttp://www.escortrscosworth.com/foru...ad.php?t=20575
                          Focus RS Toyhttp://passionford.com/forum/restora...on-the-go.html
                          Bought and made BETTER

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                          • #14
                            Trouble maker

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dan Le Moignan View Post
                              Most of us don't care what goes on with other forums, and would rather keep this place for escos talk which is why most of us are here!.
                              agreed

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