Big Turbo vs Small Turbo

[mark shead]

This is very helpful - thanks guys.

If the deal comes together it will be a ST, so it is what it is, but happy to invest in new management & turbo etc.

Can any of you recommend who is best to speak to about what parts need to change to increase power to 400 ish BHP. Do you guys think 400bhp is good usable road power or more ? I've done big power, and it lost the fun factor & wasn't usable on the road in my opinion - but it was big big power like 1600bhp+.

I hope you dont mind me asking for your opinions, but there must be so much experience and knowledge on this site which will certainly help me not to waste money etc ..

Again thanks for you help

I have done lots of st on aftermarket ecus and are amazing cars. It's sensible to know what you are aiming for when you start out so you don't ruin the car for what you want it for.

Mark

[Smithy]

I have done lots of st on aftermarket ecus and are amazing cars. It's sensible to know what you are aiming for when you start out so you don't ruin the car for what you want it for.

Mark

Hi Mark,

Id appreciate any advice you can share with me regarding whats the best way to go etc, what power are you running?

thanks mate

[Smithy]

I don't know if anyone on here knows / own's this car, but I like it, and think this is the look I'm going for

Again, are these wheels still available ? - what size ? - will i need spacers

Whats the best suspension to run ?

- hope its ok to post pictures of other peoples cars ??? - if not, let me know and ill remove

thanks

[jsa]

ECU is the main limiting factor on the small turbo car

Not true. Google Moates Quarterhorse.

[mark shead]

Hi Mark,

Id appreciate any advice you can share with me regarding whats the best way to go etc, what power are you running?

thanks mate

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Mark

[Davecos 4x4]

Eveyone likes to see under the bonnet and see the cosworth engine cover, proper engine, not a st engine as they look crap.

[Simon T]

This has been asked so many times.

I personally prefer the ST over the BT when they are in standard form - it picks up more quickly.

When buying I viewed and drove both, in the end I went ST as I decided I wanted the latest car I could find, mines in the last 100 built. I wasn't bothered about performance as i'd modded a YB before, more looks with this one but knowing that it is the final version of the YB with the better block, spray jets, inlet ect means that if I do want to up it I have a good base to work on.

11 years later I've left it standard as I like the way it drives, mines oddly 240hp too rather than the 227 as standard. Not sure why that is, only has a mongoose on with a cat present.

[1TJH]

You've got the best base car for tuning imo, the ST has loads of improved, and more reliable parts from the factory. The only other difference between bt and st in the end is the cost of tuning, but if you want to do it properly, and not cheaply then you'll be fine.

Best suspension, BAD to MAD spec, by far the best. Combine that with a 6deg rear beam, 400hp ST engine with aftermarket management running a BW turbo, and you'll be in cossie heaven.

[Smithy]

You've got the best base car for tuning imo, the ST has loads of improved, and more reliable parts from the factory. The only other difference between bt and st in the end is the cost of tuning, but if you want to do it properly, and not cheaply then you'll be fine.

Best suspension, BAD to MAD spec, by far the best. Combine that with a 6deg rear beam, 400hp ST engine with aftermarket management running a BW turbo, and you'll be in cossie heaven.

Interesting, thank you.

so in your opinion nothing else needed really to run 400bhp - no internal engine work ? - exhaust, induction, inlet, injectors ? - i appreciate every upgrade can certainly help, but generally speaking it already has the parts needed to withstand the power?

Thanks for your time

[1TJH]

Well, that's up to you, but, youll need a new ecu, id port the head, but you don't have to. Id add water injection to save messing with the intercooler, unless you don't have A.C... gearbox also would be a good idea, but not necessary, id go AP organic clutch and heavy duty cover, std airbox, you've got the best inlet on the ST engine anyway, injectors to suit the upgrade, and a handmade exhaust and manifold to suit a BW turbo, but even then you could use a T38 and a LT manifold, just won't be as responsive, or drive quite as nice.

It makes for a great road conversion, and a fast A/B road, car.

[Smithy]

Well, that's up to you, but, youll need a new ecu, id port the head, but you don't have to. Id add water injection to save messing with the intercooler, unless you don't have A.C... gearbox also would be a good idea, but not necessary, id go AP organic clutch and heavy duty cover, std airbox, you've got the best inlet on the ST engine anyway, injectors to suit the upgrade, and a handmade exhaust and manifold to suit a BW turbo, but even then you could use a T38 and a LT manifold, just won't be as responsive, or drive quite as nice.

It makes for a great road conversion, and a fast A/B road, car.

Awesome mate - thanks again - so so helpful.

Any recommendations on who's best for turbos & manifolds?

[mark shead]

Awesome mate - thanks again - so so helpful.

Any recommendations on who's best for turbos & manifolds?

That would be me.

Mark

[1TJH]

^Yep, what he said^

[Cossie col]

Defo Mark Shead best tuner from what I recal Mark has got fantastic power from standard engine with etc turbo and aftermarket management from what I recal

[Cossie col]

Eveyone likes to see under the bonnet and see the cosworth engine cover, proper engine, not a st engine as they look crap.

sorry it looks crap