whats the diffrence between a motorsport escort cosworth?

[JHS]

Sounds like D J has it all covered

Have you got the chassis number for it?
Pictures, maybe someone here knows the car and its history?

[The Radman]

back in the day lots of motorsport shells were used to reshell sierras and they normally have a mixture of parts on them,whats the chassis number then one of the guys can look it up for you to see what it left the factory as

[D J]

he says it was bought from ford as a fully trimmed shell

So that is the second version on my list above. This should be on a Q plate if built up and put on the road and not down as a Escort Cosworth on the log book. The only way it would be down as a Escort Cosworth is if it had the ID from a genuine road one and all the running gear fitted. A Q plate one would be worth around 5k less than a similar condition / spec standard road car but not sure what its worth or even legal using the ID from another one and being unrecorded.

[Jamie Young]

So that is the second version on my list above. This should be on a Q plate if built up and put on the road and not down as a Escort Cosworth on the log book. The only way it would be down as a Escort Cosworth is if it had the ID from a genuine road one and all the running gear fitted. A Q plate one would be worth around 5k less than a similar condition / spec standard road car but not sure what its worth or even legal using the ID from another one and being unrecorded.

I will try and get the chassis number

[D J]

PS try and get some pics off him of the new trimmed shell as i have been looking for ages for some pics.

I would ask him how its registered as an Escort Cosworth without a Q plate if built from a trimmed shell but get the pics first please.

[D J]

I will try and get the chassis number

Trouble is if its been done unrecorded it will just show up as the original donar car that will have been a real one. For me him admitting it was built from a trimmed shell but not on a Q plate makes me say walk away.

[D J]

If you do go and have a look at it then make sure you have a good look underneath as bare and trimmed Motorsport shells didn't have any underseal like the road MOTORSPORT / STANDARD / LUX models had.

[POLARIS ESCOS]

I presume this is the car
http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C411860

it has been on and off ebay for the last year so if you really want it and the paper work is ok am sure it would be worth a bid lower than his asking price

[stecozz]

Whats with the "andy rosse" stamped plates,thought he only raced the sierras?

Maybe thats just the engine then?

[Davecos 4x4]

If you get the details of the vin plate surely it can be decoded to see what spec the car came from the factory...the doner car I mean.

[The Radman]

seems bizarre how somebody would order a motorsport with aircon and cd etc if it had started out as a normal es cos and then been reshelled into a motosport shell because of an accident that would make more sense?

[Rippers]

I would bet it was a 909 build, there is not one 'dealer sold motorsport' element about it other then the lack of sun roof. Plus whilst its not unusual to have a 94 M-reg Big Turbo (mine is) a 95 Big Turbo M-reg would have had to be registered late.. plus I have only ever seen early 'dealer sold motorsports' on 92/93 which again leads me to believe this is a build up.

I would research it further and get the chassis number, number plate and some better pics, the angles on that piston heads listing conveniently don't quite show the angles of what I need to see to make a proper estimate.

but if it is a build up.. on a proper Esc Cos id then buy on condition

[D J]

seems bizarre how somebody would order a motorsport with aircon and cd etc if it had started out as a normal es cos and then been reshelled into a motosport shell because of an accident that would make more sense?

A trimmed Motorsport shell wouldn't have had the chance for any options and they would all be the same.

Can you reshell a car legally and keep the original plate or should they be on a Q.

[Rippers]

Thats not strictly true when checking out motorsports on the ford system in the past I have seen some with Recaro front seats as options and fog lights, so I don't know what else would be available .. although I'm calling bullshit thou as why would you order a motorsport then spec it up.. surely you would just buy a lux

Here's a theory.. maybe it isn't a motorsport and it actually a white standard.. but again, standard didn't have quick clear, electric windows and rear opening quarter lights among other things.. it certainly isn't a straight forward car and it maybe to the sellers advantage to work out what it actually was specced as new with.

[D J]

Thats not strictly true when checking out motorsports on the ford system in the past I have seen some with Recaro front seats as options and fog lights, so I don't know what else would be available .. although I'm calling bullshit thou as why would you order a motorsport then spec it up.. surely you would just buy a lux

Here's a theory.. maybe it isn't a motorsport and it actually a white standard.. but again, standard didn't have quick clear, electric windows and rear opening quarter lights among other things.. it certainly isn't a straight forward car and it maybe to the sellers advantage to work out what it actually was specced as new with.

I believe the options were only for the road Motorsport cars which were a special factory order. Mine has the recaros and fogs fitted. I would have thought all the trimmed shells would have the same spec and you buy it as it is. I even think the trimmed shells come without the front seats at all.