1200 bhp escort

[c20tbo]

hi robert
i think these things can be worked out ,they didnt have practise runs flying to the moon lol .they calculated what they needed and just did it ,in my eyes and i am no expert a rs200 engine is very similar to yb 1800 or 2.1 4 cylinder 16 valve etc

mark

Mark,

But they also had catastropic failures prior getting to the moon, NASA's shuttles wernt 100% reliable at the off

I no your not defending the guy and so on, this thread is only banter on a good subject.

[mark shead]

mark
dont you think its possible ,and i seem to remember when people on this forum were asking how good those twin scroll turbos span up you showed a graph of a stroker evo ,was that guessing based on a different engine lol sorry but i had too

mark

Look at what we did on Rods we used a turbo capable of 1000hp and had to limit it to 838hp and then the RR one was using a turbo with a flow map of 1200hp,
So for me unless they are using rocket fuel they need a turbo that is cap of 1500hp to get 1300hp,
So you can see I am not a believer of quoting big numbers without at least some experiance on that motor first,
It maybe great and make it easy but until it gets close in testing its the normal marketing BS is how I see it, Which is great if you want to spark interest in it.

Mark

[MK Motorsport]

Mark,

But they also had catastropic failures prior getting to the moon, NASA's shuttles wernt 100% reliable at the off

I no your not defending the guy and so on, this thread is only banter on a good subject.

hi robert
i know mate but they got there in the end ,most things are possible ,and the guy has actually had a go at doing something different

mark

[SCS j1mbo]

Look at what we did on Rods we used a turbo capable of 1000hp and had to limit it to 838hp and then the RR one was using a turbo with a flow map of 1200hp,
So for me unless they are using rocket fuel they need a turbo that is cap of 1500hp to get 1300hp,
So you can see I am not a believer of quoting big numbers without at least some experiance on that motor first,
It maybe great and make it easy but until it gets close in testing its the normal marketing BS is how I see it, Which is great if you want to spark interest in it.

Mark

If you make the engine do the work them a 1300bhp turbo should make 1300bhp or more if the engine is efficient in using what it's given as you know.
We have used 740bhp turbos on hugely over specced engines and seen high 7s
Or another example a 735bhp 2.2 make over 500 on a 500bhp turo at 18 psi.
I know you know all this but for people reading the above comment was a little specific

I know with this 1000+ bhp yb that the turbo will be the main item producing the power so I agree witth you

[mark shead]

If you make the engine do the work them a 1300bhp turbo should make 1300bhp or more if the engine is efficient in using what it's given as you know.
We have used 740bhp turbos on hugely over specced engines and seen high 7s
Or another example a 735bhp 2.2 make over 500 on a 500bhp turo at 18 psi.
I know you know all this but for people reading the above comment was a little specific

I know with this 1000+ bhp yb that the turbo will be the main item producing the power so I agree witth you

Add 500hp to your highly specced engine and see its not going to be as easy with a YB, It deff gets harder the higher you go.

Mark

[SCS j1mbo]

If you make the engine do the work them a 1300bhp turbo should make 1300bhp or more if the engine is efficient in using what it's given as you know.
We have used 740bhp turbos on hugely over specced engines and seen high 7s
Or another example a 735bhp 2.2 make over 500 on a 500bhp turo at 18 psi.
I know you know all this but for people reading the above comment was a little specific

I know with this 1000+ bhp yb that the turbo will be the main item producing the power so I agree witth you

Add 500hp to your highly specced engine and see its not going to be as easy with a YB, It deff gets harder the higher you go.

Mark

[MK Motorsport]

hi mark
you must think its possible to reach 1000 or close to it ,as you are now redoing rods to go beyond the 800 as he needs more to go faster doesent he

mark

[mark shead]

hi mark
you must think its possible to reach 1000 or close to it ,as you are now redoing rods to go beyond the 800 as he needs more to go faster doesent he

mark

Not changing Rods spec so the HP is were its going to stay, Using the EFR on it will only help spool and not expected to make more power.

Mark

[mark shead]

hi mark
you must think its possible to reach 1000 or close to it ,as you are now redoing rods to go beyond the 800 as he needs more to go faster doesent he

mark

1000hp is poss but its going to take some time and money both of which I am not going to supply free, So unless someone going to pay me its not going to happen at my place.

Mark

[MK Motorsport]

Not changing Rods spec so the HP is were its going to stay, Using the EFR on it will only help spool and not expected to make more power.

Mark

oh ok i thought it was going for a change so he could run faster

mark

[MK Motorsport]

1000hp is poss but its going to take some time and money both of which I am not going to supply free, So unless someone going to pay me its not going to happen at my place.

Mark

mark
what sort of spec would you use ,ie block etc and what would you think cost would be

mark

[mark shead]

mark
what sort of spec would you use ,ie block etc and what would you think cost would be

mark

Spec changes are in my head and thats where they are staying LOL,
Block not looked closely yet as not needed to or asked yet, I did look at the Cosworth one when it first came out and got lots of detailed spec from Cosworth but left it as a risk as needed to make changes to it.

Mark

[punton.bhp]

One word mental

[steveboyslim]

One question on this did you ask him what his quotes of hp was based on and how many 1000hp YB's has he built to be able to quote that hp,
It doesnt matter how many RS200 he has built as thats not a YB.

Mark

In some respects the YB is a further development of the BDT engine.
The idea was to produce a block strong enough to take 1000+ BHP.
Geoff has plenty of parts from the Hart 415T, turbos, inlet manifolds, wastegates, exhaust manifolds etc, although all for a different purpose.
The YB Hart manifold becomes restrictive even with extra fettling, the MIS manifold is also restrictive but that is easily sorted.
As an example the turbo for the Pikes Peak engine came from Honneywell Garrett not available for general sale, so we are not talking about off the shelf parts.
There are some areas such as harmonics which are unknown until an engine is built, again experiences/solutions from other project can be applied.

Steve

[lee2cossies]

All interesting and exciting stuff! They must think they can sell these engines to spend all the time/money developing them in the first place? Great that tuners are still pushing the boundaries of the old yb and hopefully one of these engines will end up in a escort/Sierra.